David Moy John 1a 2a 3a 4a 5a 6a 6b 7a 8a 9a 6c 10a 6d 6e 11a 12a 13a 14a 15a 16a 6f 6g 17a 18a 19a
| Birth Name | David Moy John |
| Gender | male |
| Age at Death | 46 years, 2 months, 22 days |
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Parents
| Relation to main person | Name | Birth date | Death date | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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| Father | John William John | between July 1859 and September 1859 | 18 July 1923 | |
| Mother | Catherine Louisa Evans | between October 1862 and December 1862 | 11 January 1948 | |
| David Moy John | 18 September 1894 | 10 December 1940 |
Families
Family of David Moy John and Edith Helen Butcher |
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| Married | Wife | Edith Helen Butcher ( * 12 January 1896 + 8 August 1967 ) | ||||||||||||||
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Pedigree
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John William John
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Catherine Louisa Evans
- David Moy John
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Catherine Louisa Evans
Ancestors
Source References
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1901 United Kingdom Census
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- Page: RG13/5018/200/38
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1911 United Kingdom Census
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- Page: RG14/32386/326
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1939 Register
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- Page: XOXB/150
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Glamorgan Free Press and Rhondda Leader
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- Date: 18 April 1924
- Page: Page 9
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Citation:
A LOSS TO THE RHONDDA.
Funeral of Mr. Tom John, M.A., J.P., Penygraig
The death of Mr. Tom John, M.A., J.P., educationist, philosopher, litterateur, musician, and Eisteddfodwr, to mention a few of this versatile man's qualifications, on Thursday evening last removes one of the "grand old men," not only of the Rhondda but of Wales.
The death of Mr. John, who was in his seventy-fifth year, followed a heart attack, and came as a shock to his many friends, for he had appeared to be in his normal health on Wednesday evening. He was one of the best known and most highly respected figures in the public life of the Rhondda, and was an educationist of national fame. During a long lifetime devoted to public service, he became widely known not only for his sterling work for democratic education, but as a talented musician and a staunch and loyal worker in the cause of Liberalism.
A native of Aberdare, Mr. John received his early education at the old "Ysgol y Comin," and was trained for the scholastic profession at the Borough-road Training College, London. After a short stay in North Wales, he came to the Rhondda. For a time he was a teacher at Penygraig, and later took charge of the colliery school establishd by the Glamorgan Coal Company, which subsequently was taken over by the local authority. He retired from this post several years ago, after forty years' service as head master.
In 1884 he was elected a member of the executive committee of the National Union of Teachers, and he remained a member of that body until he retired in 1904. His fellow members of the scholastic profession conferred on him the highest honour in their gift by electing him president of the N.U.T. He occupied the chair at the annual conference at Llandudno in 1905, and was one of the delegates appointed by the N.U.T. to present the Union's address to his Majesty King George V at the Court at St. James' Palace in July, 1910. He was a member of the Court of the University of Wales, a governor of the University College of South Wales and Monmouthshire, and a member of the National Council of the General Welsh Board. He also served intermediate education in his own district, and was a governor of the Porth County School. These services were recognized by the University of Wales in the conferment upon him of the hon. degree of M.A. of the University.
Few men, if any, did more to create a love of music in the minds of the Rhondda people. He was one of the few remaining survivors of Caradog's famous Côr Mawr. His brother, the late J.W. John, head master of the Ynyshir Schools, was also one of Caradog's famous band of singers. Mr. Tom John was for many years precentor of Salem Congregational Church, Llwynypia, and was conductor of the Salem Choral Society. In his youthful days he and the late Mr. J. W. Jones, Tonypandy, carried a harmonium from Aberdare to Ferndale to assist in the formation of a choral society in the latter district. His last appearance as a musical conductor was at the Westminster Hall, London, in January, 1922, on the occasion of a Coalition meeting at which Mr. Lloyd George was present.
During his long residence in the Rhondda he was the means of raising thousands of pounds for charity by organizing various musical events. In his youth he was well known locally as a cricketer, and was up to the time of his death a keen golfer. In politics he was a staunch life-long Liberal and was an ex-president of the old Rhonnda Labour-Liberal Association, which was disbanded a year or two ago. He was very diligent in the discharge of his duties on the magisterial bench, and was a well known figure at the Rhondda courts, where his rich sense of humour earned for him the title of "The Rhondda Plowden". If always prepared with a jest in season, he served the public faithfully in this as in every other capacity, and took particular interest in the reformation of youthful offenders.
THE FUNERAL.
The funeral took place on Tuesday at Trealaw Cemetery. The services at the house were conducted by the Rev. George Evans, B.A., B.D., and the Rev. Dyfan Thomas (Soar, Penygraig), while at the graveside the Rev. G. Evans and the Rev. D. G. Evans, Rhydyfelin (past pastor of Tabor Church) officiated. Deacons of Tabor Church and sergeants of the Glamorgan Constabulary, under Police sergeant I. J. Beirne, acted as bearers.
A brief address was delivered at the graveside by Mr. Enoch Davies, J.P., one of the deceased's colleagues on the magisterial bench. He said that Mr. John's sayings and happy expressions would live long in the memory of those who were privileged to have known him. He was a versatile, able, and most kind-hearted man, and his colleagues on the bench would miss him greatly.
The principal mourners were Mrs. D. John (widow), Mrs. T. Griffiths, J.P., Cymmer (sister), the Misses John (daughters), Mrs J. W. John, Porth (sister-in-law), Messrs. Moy John, Fred Lewis (Penygraig), Fred Lewis (Bridgend) and Tom Lewis (nephews); Mr. John Preece (brother-in-law), Messrs. Arthur and David Preece (nephews), Mr. David Davies, Llanweda (cousin), Mrs. P. Davies, Abercynon (cousin), and Messrs. Tom Ford (Aberaman), Evan Lewis (Swansea) and D. Evans, Llandilo (cousins).
The cortege was preceded by about 100 members of the Glamorgan Constabulary, under Superintendents James Davies and J. L. Rees and Inspectors E. Jones (Ton Pentre), John Davies (Tonypandy), James Griffiths (Porth) and W. E. Rees (Ferndale).
The ministers of religion present included the Revs. Principal Thomas Rees, M.A., Ph.D., Bangor College; Geo. Evans, B.A., B.D, Tabor, Penygraig (of which the late Mr. John was a deacon); Joseph Walters, Blaenclydach; E. C. Davies, Ynyshir; J. Williams, Hafod; Fred Jones, B.A., B.D., Treorchy; R. E. Peregrine, Williamstown; D. T. Jones, Noddfa, Blaenclydach; D. Overton, Ynyshir; D. Jeremy Jones, M.A., Tonypandy; D. Mark, vicar of Cymmer, Porth; D. G. Evans, Rhydyfelin (past pastor of Tabor, Penygraig), and R. Williams, Trinity, Tonypandy.
The Bench was strongly represented, and amongst magistrates and members of the Rhondda Council present were Mr. D. Lleufer Thomas, M.A., stipendiary magistrate for the Rhondda and Pontypridd; Messrs. John Hughes, J.P., David Lewis, J.P., Stephen Evans, J.P., Alderman James Evans, J.P., Messrs. Enoch Davies, J.P., Tom Taylow, J.P. (chairman of the Pontypridd Ubran District Council), Tom Morgan, J.P., David Lewis, J.P., Tudor Jenkins (representing Mr. T. Pascoe Jenkins, J.P.), J. W. John, J.P., J.W. Richards J.P., William Jones, J.P., H. H. Evans, M.E., J.P. (general manager of the Cambrian Combine Company), and Walter Williams, J.P., together with Councillors James James, J.P., Dan Davies, J.P., Dr. W. E. Thomas, J.P., Edgar Morgan, J. T. Jones, Abel Jacob, and Gwilym Rowlands, and Mr. T. W. Berry (director of education).
The scholastic profession and the National Union of Teachers, of which the late Mr. John was a past president, were very strongly represented, among those present being Messrs. Dan Edwards, Port Talblot (representing the N.U.T. Executive); Rhys Nicholas, Cwmavon; Philip Thomas, Neath; T. Morgan, Cwm pare; Urien Edwards, Bodringallt; Ben Nicholas (members of the central countil of the N.U.T. benvolent and orphan fund); T. Goodwin (president of the Rhondda Association of the N.U.T.); Gomer Evans (past president of the Rhondda Association); Dan Phillips (a former president of the Rhondda Association); J. T. Lewis (vice-president of the Welsh Head Master's Association); Morgan Rees, Harry Harries, Griffith Davies, J. W. Thomas, Edward Hugh, M.A., R. O. Davies, B.Sc., G. Davies, B.Sc., R. Bowen, A. Evans, J. D. Lewis, T. D. John, J. R. Jones, Jack Griffiths, Gwilym Lewis, R. J. Oriel, W. Jones, M.A., W. Chubb, Llandwit Fardre; Rhys Morgan, M.A., Pontypridd; and E. Samuel, M.A., Porth.
Amongst the general public present were Messrs. Willie Griffiths and W. Thomas, Cardiff; J. Victor Evans, M.A., London; T. W. Williams (representing the Church of Salem, Llwynypia, of which Mr. John was for many years precentor); Charles Woosnam, Porth; T. P. Davies and John Hughes (representing West Rhondda Liberal Association); Gomer Jones, Tonypandy; U. R. Edwards, Ystrad Rhondda, E. Edwards (representing the Rhondda district of the Typographical Association); L. E. Morgan, Barclays Bank, Tonypandy; Albert Thomas, Blaenllechau; Llewellyn Evans, Tonypandy; J. H. Llewellyn and George Llewellyn, Griffith Davies, David Rees (coroner for East Glamorgan); Thomas Morris, Trealaw; D. G. Hughes, Clydach Vale; T. Osborne, Porth; M. E. Williams, Llanharry; and Thomas Rees, Penygraig.
Beautiful floral tributes were received from Mrs. John (widow); Maggie and Madeline (daughters); Mr. and Mrs. T. Griffiths, J.P., Cymmer (sister and brother-in-law); Mrs J.W. John and Mr. Moy John; Mr. J. Preece and family; Head master and staff, Porth County School; Miss E. M. Harries, Girls' County School; Rhondda Head Teacher's Association; Dr. J. D. Jenkins (medical officer of health), Pentre; Rhondda branch of the National Union of Teachers; National Union of Teachers; Misses Gwladys and Violet Watkins; Mr. and Mrs. Rogers, Craig-y-nos, Llandrindod Wells; girls of Porth Intermediate School; Mrs. Harries and family, Prewylfa, Dinas; National Council of Music, University of Wales; Mr. and Mrs. Dean Davies, Clydach Vale; Council of U.C.S.W.; Mr. R. Love; staff, Tonypandy Secondary School, Rhondda Gold Club; Mr. Alf and Miss Annie Evans, Penrhyns; and Rhondda Liberal Association.
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Rhondda Leader
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- Date: 3 November 1906
- Page: Page 5
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Citation:
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Funeral of Mrs. Preece, Maesyrhaf, Porth.
Striking Manifestations of Sorrow.
In spite of the torrential downpour of rain which prevailed during Monday, the funeral of Mrs. Preece, wife of Mr. John Preece, ironmonger and general furnisher, Porth, and whose sad and sudden demise has caused quite a profound sensation in the district, was largely attended.
The scholastic profession, of which the deceased lady was at one time a distinguished member, was well represented, there being present representatives from the various schools throughout the Valleys. Mrs. Preece was trained for the teaching profession at Swansea, and on the termination of her collegiate career she was appointed headmistress at Ynyswen Schools, and subsequently at Bodringallt, where she remained for close upon eleven years, having fulfilled the position with infinite credit to herself and the Ystradyfodwg School Board.
She brought her scholastic career to a close on the occasion of her marriage, and although that intimate acquaintanceship with her contemporaries was now scholastically severed, a bond of friendship and mutual attachment had been cemented, and this had always been fondly preserved.
Additional pathos is centred in her death by the fact that there are no less than six young children now rendered motherless. The eldest child is barely eleven years of age, whilst the youngest has only just attained his third birthday. Much sympathy is being expressed with the sorrowing husband, the motherless children, and the relatives in the terrible and sore affliction which has befallen them.
It was close upon 3 o'clock when the mournful cortege left Maesyrhaf, after having first sang "Daeth yr awr im' ddianc adre'," the place of interment being the Llethrddu Cemetery.
The chief mourners were:- Mr. John Preece (husband); Masters D. A. Preece, Trevor Preece and Arthur Preece (sons); Miss Mary John (sister); Mr. and Mrs. Tom John, Llwynypia (brother and sister-in- law) Mr. and Mrs. J. W. John, Ynyshir (brother and sister-in-law); Mr. and Mrs. W. H. Preece, Treforest (brother and sister-in-law); Mr. and Mrs. Parsons, Pontypridd (brother and sister-in-law); Miss Dora Preece, Treforest (niece); Mr. Dafydd John, Tonypandy (nephew); Mr. David Moy John (nephew); Councillor David Evans, Llandilo (cousin); Mr. Evan Lewis, Belgrave Terrace, Swansea (uncle); Mr. W. Jeffreys, Treherbert (uncle); Mr. Willie Jeffreys (cousin); Mrs. Williams, Treorchy (cousin); Mrs. Scott, Pentre (cousin); Mrs. Davies, Treforest (cousin); Messrs. A. F. Preece and C. J. Preece, Treforest (nephews); Messrs. J. Parsons, Edward Parsons and Godfrey Parsons, Pontypridd (nephews); and Mrs. Griffiths, Poncaemawr, Merthyr (cousin).
The carriages also contained some of the most intimate friends of the deceased lady, in the persons of Mrs. Dr, Chalke; Miss Davies, Mardy Schools; Miss Jennie Thomas, Pontygwaith; Mrs. Thomas, Brynamman Mrs. Danl. Jones, Cymmer Miss Jones, Cymmer Schools; Miss Amy Jones, Porth; Miss Mattie Davies, Porth; Mrs. Evans, Hafod; Mrs. Jones, Coedpenmaen; Mrs. Harris, and Messrs. Rowlands and Humphreys.
The bearers were:- Messrs. J. R. Griffiths (foreman) and J. Rogers (Preece & Co.), W. M. Jones, H. Harris, D. E. Jones, David Davies, D. W. Davies, J. Hinton Jones, William Jones, T. Taylor, W. S. Morgan, G. Webster, and J. Smith-Davies.
The scholastic profession was represented by Mr. E. Samuel, M.A., County School; Mr. T. W. Berry, Director of Education Dr. Chalke, M.A., LL.B.; Mr. T. G. Jones, Deputy-Clerk, R.U.D.C. Mrs. G. F. Martyn and Miss Thomas, Ynysrir; Mr. D. Phillips, Wattstown; Mr. and Mrs. Daniel Jones, Cymmer; Miss Jones, Cymmor Mrs. Jones, Coedpenmaen; Mrs. J. T. Phillips, Aberllechau; Miss C. E. Davies, Ferndale; Mr. and Mrs. J. T. Lewis, Blaenclydach; Mr. and Mrs. Harry Harris, Gelli; Mr. Hawkins, Pupil Teachers' Centre; Mr. and Mrs. John Evans, Trehafod; Mr. J. Hinton Jones, Llwyncelyn; Mr. Howells, Tynewydd Mr. Arthur Williams, Porth; Mr. J. S. Grant, M.A., Higher Grade; Mr. and Mrs. John, Trealaw; Mr. J. W. Jones, Tonypandy; Mrs. Rees and Miss Jones, Porth; Mr. D. Davies, Pontygwaith; Miss Mattie Davies. Blaenllechau; Mr. and Mrs. Jenkins, Cymmer; Mrs. Davies and the Misses Morgans, Davies, Lewis, and Williams, Cymmer Schools; Mr. T. Davies, manual instructor; Mrs. Moore, l'ynewydd Schools, Porth; Mrs. Jones, Blaenrhondda; Miss Harris, Penygraig; Miss Evans, Tonypandy; Mr. Howell Howells, Treorchy; Miss D. Lewis, Llwynypia; Mr. Stanley Howells, County Schools, Porth; Mrs. Gibbon, Trehafod Schools.
There were also present the Revs. W. Thomas (vicar of Cymmer and Porth) and Gwilym Francis (curate); Rev. R. B. Jones and Mrs. Jones; Rev. J. T. Davies, Cymmer; Rev. J. T. Phillips, Ynyshir; Rev. Grawys Jones, Aberdare Rev. E. Richards, Tonypandy Rev. J. Williams, Hafod; Rev. John Morgan (C.M.), Ynyshir; Rev. E. C. Davies, Ynyshir; Rev. IR. E. Salmon, Porth: Rev. J" D. Jones, Abercanaid; Rev. D. D. Hopkins, Seion, Porth; Rev. J. M. Lewis, Cymmer; Rev. J. Edwards, Salem, Porth; Rev. T. J. Pritchard, Porth; Councillors L. P. Griffiths, Porth, and David Smith, T'ylorstown; Dr. Ivor H. Davies, Bryngarw; Messrs. William Evans (Thomas & Evans); Wm. Griffiths, Apple Tree; John Hughes (cashier), Stan- dard Colliery; Howell Davies, Ynyshir; John Hughes (checkweigher), Cymmer Collieries; Thomas Davies, Pantglas; D. Powell, Porth Farm; W. Williams, The Bon; Joseph Brooks, Porth; Gwilym Thomas, Ynyshir; Thomas Davies, chemist; W. S. Morgan, ironmonger; J. H. Richards, Cloth Hall; James Williams, Porth; Wm. Humphreys, Aberdare; W. R. Thomas, newsagent; D. M. Jones, Gladstone House; J. R. James, Royal Stores; L. T. Davies, sanitary inspector; J. T. Jones (Jones & Jones); A. J. Williams, solicitor; R. S. Jones, Llandudno; Richard Rowlands, Aber- dare; R. G. Scott, jeweller; Geo. Packer, Aldergrove; John Davies, Cae'rysgol; J. Trotman (Chas. Jenkins & Sons); Morgan Morgans, Cymmer; J. Idris Davies, Ynyshir; Alfred Jenkins, Porth; W. Gibbon, stationmaster; D Williams, Hannah Street; D. W. Davies, chemist; T. O. Jones and Lewis Thomas (Preece and Co.); M. John, Pentre; Wm. Evans, Liberal agent, Pentre; D. Jones, Commerce House; Owen Griffiths (City Tailors); J. Powell Davies; Benj. Phillips, Porth; T. Williams, Hannah Street; Edgar Thomas, Porth; Joseph E. Davies ("Rhondda Leader"); Enoch Jones, contractor; W. D. Thomas, Cemetery Rd.; David Davies, Porth; M. J. Thomas, Cymmer Collieries; Tom Ash (T.V.R.); Owen Griffiths, Ynyshir; J. Joyce, Maesteg; J. Toleman, Cardiff: J. E. Lloyd, Porth; Mrs. Packer, Aldergrove; Mrs. E. S. Williams, Cymmer; Mrs. R. B. Jones, Porth; Miss Hannah Price, Ystrad; Mr. and Mrs. Jenkin Evans, Mount Pleasant; Mr. and Mrs. John Davies, Porth; Mrs. Davies, Pantglas; Mrs. M. A. Thomas, Cymmer; Mrs. C. G. Evans, Hannah Street; Mrs. Davies, Cymmer; Mrs. Hodgson; Mrs. Edward Evans; Mrs. Evans, Parade; Mrs. Tom Price, Hannah Street; Miss Jones, Bristol House; Mr. and Mrs. D. Williams, Hannah Street; Miss Howells, Rose Bank; Miss Thomas, Tivy Villa, Pontypridd; Mrs. Thomas, Gilea, Brynamman; Mr. and Mrs. Thomas, China Shop; Mrs. Owen, Mardy.
Floral tributes were sent by the following:- The Family; Mr. and Mrs. Tom John, Llwynypia; Mr. and Mrs. J. W. John, Ynyshir; Mr. and Mrs. W. H. Preece, Treforest; Mr. and Mrs. Parsons, Pontypridd; Mrs. J. W. Jones, Tynny Park, Trecynon; Mr. and Mrs. Evan Lewis, Swansea; Staff, Cymmer Girls' School; Staff of J. Preece & Co.; Miss C. E. Davies, Terrace House, Ferndale; Mr. and Mrs. Harry Harris, Ystrad; Mr. and Mrs. D. M. Jones, Gladstone House; Mr. and Mrs. R. S. Jones, Llandudno; Dr. and Mrs. R .D. Chalke, The Parade; Mr. and Mrs. Dl. Jones, Cymmer Schools; Mrs. Howells and family, Rose Bank, Ystrad; Miss M. J. Jones, cymmer Schools; Mr. and Miss Jones, Woodlands, Cemetery Road; Mr. and Mrs. Davies, Post Office, Porth; Councillor and Mrs. Smith, Tylorstown; Mr. and Mrs. Smith-Davies, Porth; Mrs. G. F. Martyn and Miss Thomas, Ynyshir Schools; Mr. and Mrs. Evans, Hafod Schools; Mr. and Mrs. Davies, Lismore House Dr. and Mrs. Joyce, Glynrhondda Councillor and Mrs. W. T. Davies, Bryn- bedw; Mr. and Mrs. J. H. Richards, Cloth Hall; Mr. and Mrs. Hawkins, Cemetery Road; Mr. and Mrs. A. E. Wilton, Porth; and Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Brooks, Porth.
The service at. the graveside was conducted by the Rev. W. Thomas (vicar of Cymmer and Porth), the Revs. J. T. Davies (Cymmer), and Grawys Jones (Ebenezer, Aberdare), and the singing of that stirring yet pathetic Welsh hymn, "Bydd myrdd o ryfeddodau," brought the obsequies to a close. The coffin was of Welsh oak, with silver-plated fittings, and contained the following inscription:-
Margaret Preece,
Died 24th October, 1906,
Aged 43 Years.The funeral arrangements were satisfactorily undertaken by Mr. John Williams, Cymmer.
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National Union of Teachers
Meeting at Porth.
There were close upon 250 certificated teachers present at the County Schools, Porth, on Saturday last, the meeting having been convened for the purpose of according a warm welcome to Mr. Harry Price, M.A., the newly appointed Inspector of the schools, who succeeds Mr. Thomas Jones, M.A., Abergavenny, who has resigned. Those present were grawn from the Rhonddas, Mountain Ash and Pontypridd scholastic areas.
Mr. Edgar Jones, M.A., presided, and gave an admirable address on "The Ideal Education". Addresses were also delivered by the new Inspector, Mr. J.S. Grant, M.A. (headmaster, Higher Grade Schools), and Mr. England (Cardiff).
Advantage was also taken of the occasion to present Mr. J. T. Lewis (Clydach Vale) with a slight recognition of the valuable services which he has rendered in his capacity as local secretary to the N.U.T. The presentations consisted of a finely executed address, together with a travelling bag, and these were respectively presented by Mr. Edgar Jones and Mrs. Gibbon (Hafod Schools).
The lady teachers at the Higher Grade Schools had prepared quite a sumptuous repast, and this was thoroughly enjoyed. In the subsequent vote of thanks to Mr. Grant for the kind interest which he had taken, the ladies were not forgotten for the admirable part which they took in the commissariat department.
A social had also been arranged in connection with the meeting, but this was postponed in consequence of the sad death of Mrs. Preece, Porth, and who had been a prominent member of the scholastic profession for some years. A vote of condolence with the bereaved family was also passed with due solemnity.
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To Do:
Family members still to be identified:
Mrs. Williams, Treorchy (cousin)
Mrs. Davies, Treforest (cousin)
Mrs. Griffiths, Poncaemawr, Merthyr (cousin)
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Western Mail
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- Date: 22 June 1927
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USED HIS CLIENTS' MONEY.
RHONDDA SOLICITOR'S ADMISSIONS.
LOST £700 IN LAW CASE.
FAILURE DUE TO STRIKE AND OTHER THINGS.
Mr. David Moy John, who has practised as a solicitor in Station-road, Porth, admitted to the assistant official receiver, Mr. E. V. Watkins, at the Pontypridd Bankruptcy-court on Tuesday that he had used money belonging to clients.
He stated that a receiving order was made on March 10. Creditors had obtained judgment against him, under one of which the sheriff was in possession. That was the cause of his filing his petition.
Gross liabilities amounted to £5,320 1s. 8d., of which £4,732 7s. 6d. was expected to rank for dividend.
The assets were estimated to produce £527 6s. 7d., leaving a deficiency of £4,205 0s. 11d. The unsecured liabilities, totalling £1,080, were in respect of clients' money received by him to invest on mortgage. Over £700 represented money as agent in respect of damages and costs.
With regard to the latter he had received the damages and not paid them over. He had also received costs which he had not paid over.
There was also an amount of £912 13s. 8d., money received from purchase of properties which had not been handed over to the vendors.
BORROWED FROM RELATIVES.
Seven hundred pounds was another item representing money borrowed from relatives and a moneylender, while £5772 14s. was money received in discharge of mortgages and not paid over to mortgagees. There was a further item of £102 16s. 6d. for counsel's fees.
Part of that sum was actually given to him to pay the barrister, but he returned it.
He was articled to a solicitor at Cardiff.
He joined the Army in 1915 and was demobilised in 1918. He was admitted as a solicitor in 1920, and subsequently practised in Station-road, Porth, borrowing £200 from a relative to start with. In the six years during which he practised he had not more than £300 a year. This amount was not sufficient to keep him, and he lived considerably above his means. It was in this way that he incurred a bank overdraft, and because of this he resorted to clients' money and used it for other purposes.
He had a joint account with his wife and intermingled the clients' money with his own. He first went to a moneylender about six months before the receiving order, when he borrowed £140. He had paid back £100.
ASSIZE DAMAGES NOT PAID.
The Assistant Official Receiver: "Did you cash some of the cheques you received?" - "No, never. I put them through my banking account."
"You have been asked by the official receiver to lodge an account showing the moneys received by you on behalf of and from clients which you have converted to other purposes, and on the other side of the account you show, as far as you are able, what you have done with the money.
"The account in question shows that you have received £3,475 6s. 6d. on behalf of and for fourteen clients?" - "That is so."
"And this money has been converted by you for purposes other than those for which it was intended. Do you say that you have been using clients' money for three years preceding the receiving order?" - "Yes."
"The result has been that in order to find money to pay something off the amounts mentioned you had to use someone else's money?" - "Yes."
"It has been more or less of a snowball for the last three years?" - "Yes."
"Did you some time late in 1926 act for a man called Fraser at the Swansea Assizes?" - "Yes."
"Your client lost the action and judgment was given for £500 and costs?" - "Yes."
"Did you pay over this £500 damages?" - "No. I paid off various other items."
"Did you receive a further cheque from the insurance company?" - "Yes, £212 6s. 5d."
"Did you pay the solicitors their tax costs?" - "No."
SPENT MORE THAN HE EARNED.
"I take it that you have not told the insurance company that you have not paid over the damages when they gave you a further cheque. They assumed you had paid for the damages?" - "I presume so."
"I take it that you could not have paid all the amounts I read out to you but for these cheques?" - "That is so."
"You have told the official received that you have had certain losses and expenses which you could calculate up to an amount of something like £3,000. Can you give us an explanation?" - "On my father's death I took charge of affairs, and shortly afterwards my mother became seriously ill. I think I can safely say that between both matters I spent about £290. I have come to the conclusion on reflection that I have been living above my income to the extent of between £250 and £300 a year.
"I paid a Mrs. Davies, of Hopkinstown, Pontypridd, £50, as I had wrongly advised her regarding a case, and also made up the purchase money of a house she was buying by £25.
"I estimate I had lost in regard to E. Davies, now dead, in regard to journeys to London, and interest, £350. I have lost in building my bungalow £170.
"I have paid £50 to John Williams because I settled a case without his instructions, and he insisted on his money in full.
"I paid a deposit on a house which I could not recover, and this was £30.
"I also lost £700 in a Chancery action in Railton v. Railton, and was out of pocket by £150.
"I lost on my car £100 and I paid £75 towards my father's tombstone.
"I am out of pocket re S. J. Thompson by about £20.
"My wedding expenses cost £75, and I estimate I have paid about £100 in extra interest through holding clients' money for a long time. These amounts make a total of £3,295."
"AMATEUR LEDGER."
The Assistant Official Receiver: "In regard to the client's ledger, how was that kept?" - "I am afraid it was not properly kept. I did not keep it myself."
"It was never balanced?" - "That is so. It was quite of an amateur nature."
"So you agree that the books of account kept by you were not proper books of the kind as should be kept by a solicitor?" - "I honestly admit that."
"You really say your books have never been balanced or totalled?" - "Well, no. They were made up out of my head or on a scrap of paper."
"Have you got those scraps of paper?" - "I am afraid not."
"It would be impossible for any accountant to get at your position from your books?" - "Quite."
"What are some other causes of your failure?" - "There were several strikes."
"Would they affect you as they would a tradesman?" - "Yes."
"Did you have any anticipation of an improvement in your position?" - "Well, I thought I had resources which I could go to, but they failed."
The Registrar remarked that the debtor had apparently made a full disclosure, and he would close the examination.
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- Date: 22 September 1927
- Page: Page 11
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Citation:
SOLICITOR SENT FOR TRIAL.
SEQUEL TO A PORTH BANKRUPTCY.
David Moy John, a Porth solicitor, was committed for trial on bail of £800 at Pontypridd on Wednesday on accusations of fraudulent conversion of moneys entrusted to him by his clients.
Mr. David Rees (of Messrs. W. R. Davies and Co., Pontypridd) appeared for the prosecution, and Mr. Lester Lewis (of Messrs. Spickett and Sons, Pontypridd) defended.
The accusations were all made under the Larceny Act of 1926.
Mr. David Rees said the first accusation he proposed to take was that in which John was accused of having in December, 1926, fradulently converted £120 which was entrusted to him by Mr. James Williams, a butcher, of Porth, for the purpose of advancing money on property known as Birchgrove, Porth.
John filed his petition in bankruptcy in March of this year.
The other accusation, said counsel, concerned Mrs. Catherine Anne Williams, the wife of James Williams.
PROPERTY LOAN.
She gave Mr. John £100 for the purpose of lending the money to Mrs. Sarah Thomas in connection with some property at Porth.
Another solicitor was acting for the mortgagee, and on December 23 Mrs. Catherine Williams handed a cheque for £100 to Mr. John for the purpose of lending the money to Mrs. Thomas.
Mrs. Thomas thought the matter had been settled until she found out that the bailiff had been put in for the interest due on the mortgage which she thought Mr. John had paid off.
The third accusation, said counsel, was even more serious.
Mr. John was acting for a Mr. Fraser, of Ferndale, by the instruction of the insurance company in an action that was brought forward at the assizes at Swansea.
The case arose out of the death of a man named Llewellyn.
Llewellyn was knocked down by a motor-car in Pontygwaith and his widow took action against Mr. Fraser, the owner of the motor-car, for damages arising out of the accident.
CHEQUE FOR WIDOW.
Mr. John appeared for the insurance company with whom Mr. Fraser was insured and the widow of Mr. Llewellyn obtained judgment against Mr. Fraser for herself and her children for £500.
A sum of £150 of that money was to be paid to Mrs. Llewellyn, and the difference to be paid into court for the benefit of the children, who were infants.
The insurance company sent Mr. John a cheque for £500, and £252 for his own costs. The cheque was paid into Mr. John's banking account.
Mr. John was pressed to pay the judgment debt and costs, but he failed to pay the £150 to the widow or the £350 into court.
Mr. Alfred E. Taylor, a milk vendor of Penygraig, through his brother, Mr. Moses Taylor, handed to Mr. John a cheque for £160. Mr. John said he would put the money out on mortgage for him.
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- Date: 13 December 1940
- Page: Page 3
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Citation:
OBITUARY
Mr. David Moy John, Usk
The death has occurred at the age of 45 of Mr. David Moy John, joint proprietor with his brother-in-law, Mr. A. W. Butcher, of the Three Salmons Hotel, Usk.
Mr. John has been an enthusiastic supporter of the Rugby and cricket sections of Usk Athletic Club, and in his younger days played Rugby as a forward with many well-known clubs.
During the last War he saw service with the Royal Welch Fusiliers and reached the rank of captain. He was awarded the Military Cross for conspicuous bravery. He is survived by his wife and a baby daughter.
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- Date: 16 January 1925
- Page: Page 7
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FUNERAL OF MRS. THOMAS GRIFFITHS AT MUMBLES.
The funeral of the late Mrs. Mary Griffiths, J.P., a well known Rhondda lady magistrate, which took place at the Mumbles Cemetery, Swansea, on Thursday afternoon, was a very impressive one, although it took place at a place remote from the scene of the lady's chief life activities.
Mrs. Griffiths was the wife of Mr. Thomas Griffiths, M.E., J.P., formely director and general manger of the Insoles Cymmer Collieries, and sister of the late Mr. Tom John, Llwynypia, and she was (as already stated) a lady who had occupied many important public positions in the Porth district.
There was a large attendance of relatives and friends from many parts of Glamorgan at the house, at which Mrs. Griffiths died in her retirement, namely, Longfield, West Cross, Mumbles, and many others attended at the graveside at the cemetery.
At the services the Revs. A. Smith (Mumbles), E. C. Davies (Ynyshir), and D. Mark, M.A. (Porth), officiated.
The chief mourners were Messrs. John Griffiths and W. Griffiths (sons), Evan Lewis, John Preece (brother-in-law), D. Moy John, solicitor (nephew), H. E. Thomas (son-in-law), Rhys Morgan (son-in-law), David Preece, Trefor Preece, and Arthur Preece (nephews), H. Cook, H. Wakefield, David Evans (Llandilo), the Rev. J. D. Jones (Cellan), Thomas Thomas (nephew), David Evans, Trefor Griffiths (grandson), Willie Thomas (nephew), John Griffiths and W. Griffiths, Los Angeles (nephews), Moy Evans, David Davies (Porth), F. G. Martin, W. Jackson, W. Rowlands, R. Llewellyn, W. Williams, John Thomas, John Samuel, Timothy Evans, M.E., John Morgan (Abertridwr), T. Day (Abertridwr), E. S. Williams, M.E. (Porth), W. B. Davies, M.E. (Porth), Dr. Marks, Rev. W. James (Swansea), Mr. J. Morgan (Porth), Messrs. H. J. Williams (Porth), J. D. Rees (Barclays Bank, Porth), John Hughes, J.P. (Porth), Octavius Thomas (Porth), John Davies (Porth), Wm. Chenery (Porth), Councillors Mark Harcombe, Abel Jacob, James James, and John Hughes, Messrs. J. H. Thorne, Gwilym Morgan, Griffith Morgan, H. E. Morris, and J. E. Lloyd (clerk to the governors of the county school), while at the graveside were also Mr. and Mrs. Arnott (Midland Bank, Porth), Lady Nicholas, Miss Harris (County School), Mrs. John Kane, Mrs. Dr. Davies, the Rev. and Mrs. Mark (vicar of Cymmer), Mrs. J. T. Lewis, Mrs. Davies (Brynbedw), Mrs. Lewis (Tylorstown), Mrs. Dr. Davies (Poplars, Porth), and Miss E. M. Harris (Porth County Schools).
The services were very impressive, and the large congregation joined in singing with great earnestness the hymns "Lead, Kindly Light" (tune "Sandon"), "Jesu, Lover of my Soul" (tune "Aberystwyth"), and "Daeth yr Awr" (tune "Lausanne"). Over 70 wreaths and other floral tributes were sent by sympathisers.
References to the loss sustained by the death of Mrs. Griffiths were made at Porth Police-court on Thursday by the Rhondda stipendiary (Mr. D. Lleufer Thomas, M.A.) and Leiut-col. D. Watts Morgan, C.B.E., D.S.O, M.P.
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- Date: 17 January 1925
- Page: Page 5
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LATE MRS. MARY GRIFFITHS, J.P.
More than sixty wreaths were received for the funeral of Mrs. Mary Griffiths, J.P., of Longfields, West Cross, which, as reported in Friday's Western Mail, took place at the Mumbles Cemetery on Thursday.
They included the following:-
Mr. T. Griffiths (husband); Mr. and Mrs. Griffiths, John, Bertha, Nansi, and Betty (Brighton), son and daughter-in-law; Mr. and Mrs. W. T. Griffiths (son and daughter-in-law); Messrs. Wynne and Douglas Griffiths (grandchildren); Mr. and Mrs. H. E. Thomas (daughter and son-in-law); Mr. and Mrs. R Morgan (daughter and son-in-law); Mr. J. Preece and family, Maesyrhaf, Porth; Mrs. Tom John (sister-in-law); Mrs. J. W. John and Mr. D. Moy John; Miss Griffiths and Mrs. Thomas (sisters-in-law); Mr. Evan Lewis; Dr Trevor Preece, Hull (nephew); the Misses Margaret and Madeline John (nieces); Mr. Moy Evans, solicitor, Swansea; Rachel, Mona, Maggie, Wakefield, and Cookie; chairmen and directors of Insoles (Limited); Cymmer Collieries; Mr. and Mrs. W. North Lewis; Cymmer Colliery Officials; Office Stall of Cymmer Collieries; Mrs. Insole, Ely Court; Commissioners, Guiders, Guides and Browies of the Rhondda Division; Clerk and Governors of the Porth Intermediate Schools; boys and girls of Caer salem Newydd, Cymmer.
[etc, etc]
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- Date: 12 December 1940
- Page: Page 5
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Citation:
[DEATHS.]
JOHN. - On December 10, at Three Salmons Hotel, Usk, David Moy, beloved husband of Helen John. Funeral Friday, leaving residence Eleven a.m. for St. Mary's Church, Usk.
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- Date: 19 July 1923
- Page: Page 8
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MR. J. W. JOHN, PORTH.
The death took place on Wednesday of Mr. J. W. John, The Laurels, Porth, headmaster of the Ynyshir Council Schools for over 40 years. Mr. John was born in 1859, and was the son of the late Mr. Dafydd John, of Aberdare, who was well-known as a pioneer in the musical life of that valley. Mr. J. W. John inherited this same love of music, and, as a boy, was a member of the famous "Côr Caradog" in 1871. He was trained for the teaching profession at Burrough-road College, London, and came to Ynyshir in 1881. He had been president of the County Teachers' Association, Rhondda and Pontypridd Teachers' Association, and the Teachers' Provident Society, and his many and various activities were recognised by his old pupils when they presented him with an illuminated address at the time of his retirement in 1921. Mr. John leaves a window and a son (Mr. D. Moy John, solicitor, Porth). His brother is Mr. Tom John, M.A., J.P., Penygraig, and Mrs. Mary Griffiths, J.P., Cymmer, is his sister. The funeral will take place on Monday at the Llethrddu Cemetery, Trealaw.
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- Date: 12 April 1924
- Page: Page 8
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Citation:
DEATHS.
JOHN. - On April 10th, at Cae Gwyn, Penygraig, Tom John, M.E., J.P., beloved husband of Mrs. Diana John, in his 75th year. Funeral Tuesday, 2.30, for Trealaw Cemetery; Gentlemen only.
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- Date: 15 January 1925
- Page: Page 1
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Citation:
[DEATHS.]
GRIFFITHS. - On the 12th inst., at Longfield, West Cross Swansea, Mary Griffiths, J.P., late of Maesgwyn, Porth. Funeral (Gentlemen only) Thursday, leaving the above residence at One p.m. for Mumbles Cemetery. Friends wishing to attend will meet at Mumbles Cemetery at 1.30 p.m.
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Western Morning News
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- Date: 22 September 1927
- Page: Page 8
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Citation:
ALLEGED CONVERSION
WELSH SOLICITOR COMMITTED FOR TRIAL AT ASSIZES
Six charges of alleged fraudulent conversion of moneys entrusted to him to pay other people were preferred against David Moy John, aged 33, formely a solicitor of Porth, Rhondda, at the Porth, Glamorgan, Court yesterday.
John was arrested at Liverpool on Saturday night, and was brought up in custody after having failed to obtain sureties.
Mr. David Rees, Pontypridd, who appeared for the Director of Public Prosecutions, stated that John had received from four different persons sums of £100, £110, £120 and £160, to be invested upon mortgages in the district. He did not complete the deeds, nor pay over the money, but, it was alleged, converted it to his own use.
At the Glamorgan Assizes in November he acted for the Century Assurance Company, who defended an action brought against them in respect of the death of a man who was killed in a motor car accident.
The company lost the action, and judgment was given against them for £500. Of this amount £150 was to be paid the widow, and the balance paid over to the Pontypridd County Court in trust for the children of the dead man.
The insurance company paid John this sum, with his own costs, amounting to £250, and later they sent him a cheque for £212, the taxed costs of the solicitor for the plaintiff.
It was alleged that John converted the whole amount to his own use, and had not paid any of these sums to the persons entitled to them.
John, who pleaded "Not guilty" and reserved his defence, was committed for trial at the Glamorgan Assizes.
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Citation:
Identical articles appeared on the same day in the following papers:
Western Daily Press - page 8
Newcastle Journal - page 5
The Scotsman - page 5
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Birmingham Daily Gazette
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- Date: 11 November 1927
- Page: Page 7
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Citation:
4-YEAR SENTENCE ON SOLICITOR.
£3,500 Misappropriated.
David Moy John, solicitor, of Porth, was sentenced to four years' penal servitude at Glamorgan Assizes yesterday for fraudulently converting clients' money to his own use. It was stated that John was a member of a good family, and had had a distinguished career in the Army. He became bankrupt last March, and altogether had misappropriated £3,500.
Passing sentence Mr. Justice Wright said he was bound to take a very serious view of the offence. By becoming a solicitor, John had joined a great and honoured profession, upon which the public placed complete reliance and trust. The greater the trust the more serious the betrayal.
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Citation:
Identical articles appeared on the same day in the following papers:
Leeds Mercury - page 3
The Scotsman - page 5
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Taunton Courier and Western Advertiser
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- Date: 28 March 1928
- Page: Page 7
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Citation:
LAWYERS STRUCK OFF.
JAIL BIRDS NO LONGER IN THE PROFESSION.
Six solicitors were on Friday struck off the rolls by a Committee under the Solicitors Act.
Gordon List Trelawney Stocker, formerly of Stockport; Charles Cecil Dominy, formerly of Southampton and Hythe, Hants; David Moy John, formerly of Porth (Glamorgan); John Jones Pugh, formerly of Aberavon, Pontypridd and Cardiff, and Samuel Shipton, formerly of Neath, were adjudged guilty of misconduct in regard to various forms of fraud for which they had been sentenced to imprisonment.
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The National Archives: MEPO 6: Metropolitan Police: Criminal Record Office: Habitual Criminals Registers and Miscellaneous Papers
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- Date: 9 November 1927
- Page: David Moy John
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National Archives, Kew: War Office and Air Ministry: Service Medal and Award Rolls, First World War. WO329
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- Page: David Moy John
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Army Medal Office: WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards
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- Page: David Moy John
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findmypast.co.uk / Glamorgan Archives: Parish Registers - Glamorgan
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- Date: 26 March 1895
- Page: Baptism - David Moy John (Ynyshir)
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Ancestry.com: Parish Registers - Monmouthshire
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- Date: 13 December 1940
- Page: Burial - David Moy John (Usk)
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The National Archives: HO 140 Home Office: Calendar of Prisoners
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- Date: 10 November 1927
- Page: B8. John, David Moy
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B8. John, David Moy, 33, solicitor.
Committed from Pontypridd, 21 September 1927.
Bailed at Court, 22 September, 1927. Surrendered 10 November, 1927.
Offence. - On or about 15 December, 1926, in the County of Glamorgan, being entrusted with a cheque for £120 by James Williams, did fraudulently convert the same to his own use.
2nd Charge. - On or about 21 December, 1926, in the County of Glamorgan, being entrusted with a cheque for £100 by Caroline Ann Williams, did fraudulently convert the same to his own use.
3rd Charge. - On 23 December, 1926, in the County of Glamorgan, being entrusted with a cheque for £752 0s. 6d., by the Century Insurance Co., Ltd., did fraudulenty convert the same to his own use.
4th Charge. - On or about 23 February, 1927, in the County of Glamorgan, being entrusted with a cheque for £212 6s. 5d., by the Century Insurance Co., Ltd., did fraudulently convert the same to his own use.
5th Charge. - On or about 16 October, 1926, in the County of Glamorgan, being entrusted with a cheque for £160, by Alfred Edward Taylor, did fraudulenty convert the same to his own use.
6th Charge. - On or about 22 January, 1927, in the County of Glamorgan, being entrusted with a cheque for £100 and Treasury Notes valued £10, by Edward Thomas, did fraudulenty convert the same to his own use.
Tried before The Hon. Mr. Justice Wright, Kt. 10 November, 1927.
Plea. - Guilty on all counts.
Sentence. - 4 years p.s.
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Thomas Preece: Gravestone photographs
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- Date: 4 September 2021
- Page: David Moy John and Mr & Mrs Radcliffe, St Mary's Usk
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In very loving memory of David Moy John MC died Dec'r 10th 1940 aged 45 years.
Also Mr and Mrs Radcliffe Three Salmons Hotel from 1933-1964.
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- Date: 22 June 2018
- Page: Tom & Diana John, Trealaw Cemetery
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- Date: 19 June 2018
- Page: Thomas & Mary Griffiths, Oystermouth Cemetery
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- Date: 15 May 2018
- Page: John & Elizabeth Powell et al, Glyntaff Cemetery
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Notice of Interment - Trealaw Cemetery
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- Date: 18 July 1923
- Page: John William John
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- Date: 25 October 1906
- Page: Margaret Preece
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- Date: 11 April 1924
- Page: Tom John
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1921 United Kingdom Census
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- Page: RG15/26744/26
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Pontypridd Observer
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- Date: 13 November 1926
- Page: Page 5
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Citation:
DEATH & FUNERAL OF MR. W. H. PREECE, TREFOREST.
It is with deep regret that we chronicle the death of Mr. William Henry Preece, who passed away at the residence of his daughter, Mrs. H. E. Summers, 44, Llantwit Road, Treforest, on Monday. Deceased was a native of Pontypridd, being born in the town 72 years ago. He married Miss Edith Powell, headmistress of the Wood Road Girls' School, who pre-deceased him four years ago. Mr. Preece served for nearly a quarter of a century with the Taff Vale Railway Company and finally retired from the position of stationmaster at Treforest. The funeral took place at Glyntaff Cemetery, Treforest, on Thursday, the Rev. J. Gower Jones M.A. (Vicar of Glyntaff) officiating. The chief mourners were: Mr. J. Preece, Porth, brother; Mr. H. E. Summers, Treforest, son-in-law; Messrs. David Preece and Arthur Preece, Porth; John Parsons and Edward Parsons, Pontypridd; J. Edwards, Treforest, nephews.
Among the general public were Messrs. W. E. Summers, T. J. Gowan, H. P. Williams, W. Hobbs, G. Mitchell, H. John, J. Jenkins, Percy S. Phillips, J. McGregor, Rhys Davies, F. Davies, A. Liscombe, Oliver Morgan, R. Jones, D. Thomas, E. Hemmings, E. S. Hunt, Griff Morgan, D. Richards, R. T. Richards, J. Harrison, W. Carpenter, Moses Severn, Foulkes Jones, J. O'Donnell, and others.
For some years the deceased was with his brother, Mr. J. Preece, ironmonger, Porth, and the following gentlemen from Porth gave evidence of the respect with which he was held in that district: Councillor Jack Morgan, Messrs. Tom Davies (chemist), D. Moy John (solicitor), W. Griffith Thomas, Owen Nicholas, Smith Davies, W. S. Morgan, - Gibbon, Robert Farr and others.
Floral tributes were sent by Mr. J. Preece and family; Mrs. H. E. Summers, daughter; Miss Mary Summers, grand-daughter; Miss Gladys Preece, Welshpool; Mrs. Margaret Parsons, Swansea; Mr. W. E. Summers; Mrs. Kate Edwards, Rhydyfelin; Mrs. Edith Preece, Church Village, and Neighbours and Friends.
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- General Register Office: England & Wales Birth Index
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Burial Register - Trealaw Cemetery
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- Page: Plot D25
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- Page: Plot Q676
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Kelly's Directory
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- Date: 1923
- Page: Rhondda (Pontrgwaith.) South Wales, Page 848
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Wills on file
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- Date: 9 May 1913
- Page: Tom John (1849-1924)
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Burial Register - Glyntaff Cemetery
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- Page: Plot J105
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UK Government: National Probate Calendar
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- Date: 12 July 1941
- Page: David Moy John
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Citation:
JOHN David Moy of The Three Salmons Hotel Usk Monmouthshire died 10 December 1940 Administration Oxford 12 July to Edith Helen Moy John widow. Effects £226 18s. 7d.
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- General Register Office: England & Wales Death Index
- General Register Office: England & Wales Marriage Index